[lbo-talk] Lee's Garage

[Michael Hoover]

>>> info at pulpculture.org 02/17/06 1:03 PM >>>
Axshully, Marx talked about how this class -- and that is what he called it 
-- was interesting precisely because, at certain times in history, the bulk 
of them would side with one side or the other, coming over to the ruling 
class to support its interests or coming over to the working class to 
support its interests and, thereby, recognizing membership in the working 
class (that is, class consciousness).
Marx didn't think this was a mythical class.

At 11:21 AM 2/17/2006, Carrol Cox wrote:
>A Manager. That is, a member of that mythical class, the
>"Professional-Managerial" class. Or "Middle Class." Perhaps even in some
>fevered imaginations an "Upper Middle Class."
>You simply cannot catch the reality of class by looking at income or
>education or life style.
>Carrol
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_class struggles in france_ (1850) and _18th brumaire of louis napoleon_ certainly 
do not operate via crude 'two class' model of society that so many social sciences 
textbooks attribute to him...

moreover, marx criticized ricardo - in the uncompleted _theories of surplus value_, 
sometimes called _capital, vol. 4 - for failing to recognize growth of middle classes 
between capital/landlord & labor, he suggests that this group is a burden for working 
class and increases power *and* security of capitalist class, thus, did marx anticipate 
'managerial revolution'...

in _capital, vol. 3, he calls managerial types 'functionaries' and - at about the point 
where manuscript more or less comes to incomplete end - he refers to includes them 
as part of 'middle and intermediate stata'...   mh