[lbo-talk] What is you know what ?

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Fri Feb 17 18:33:45 PST 2006


Dennis Claxton wrote:
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> in keeping with Churchill's quote, it has never been
> widespread or systematic enough to become a foundation for anything
> approaching a totalitarian government. If that was the case, would
> we be talking so openly here?

The debate focuses too much on how _bad_ conditions are. The point is that there are many varieties of police state (the term "totalitariian" was never too useful), and for A to be worse than B does not necessarily at all mean that A is "closer" to fascism than B. Particularly if you are using marxist criteria, talking about A worse than B or not as bad as B puts you in Prudhon's cage, not Marx's. There have been many non-fascist states that were a lot worse live in than Mussolini's Italy. It's not a line from Good to Bad, with "Fascism" = Bad.

Carrol


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