[lbo-talk] Liza on coffee

Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Thu Jul 6 15:30:25 PDT 2006


On Jul 6, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Jim Devine wrote:


> Starf*cks burns their beans in order to increase the caffeine content
> -- and then uses milk to cover the resulting bitterness. Peets or
> Coffee Bean would be a better example here.

Still, Starbucks raised the standard for coffee in the U.S. I'd rather go somewhere else, but it's a lot better than the crap you can get at diners, which was the pre-Starbucks American standard.

I'd say something similar about Barnes & Noble. Yes it's sad that it's put some indies out of business, but in most places, a B&N is a massive improvement over what existed before. Even on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, the Shakespeare & Co. that B&N killed was a pretty crummy store - poor stock, unhelpful staff. The B&N has a huge stock and gets good authors at readings. It's a net positive for literacy. We met the chain's principal politics buyer a couple of years ago and found her to be a smart person with good politics.

Doug



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