-------------- Original message -------------- From: Eric Beck <rayrena at realtime.net>
>
> > Somehow I fail to see what creepy Green Party-Populism and
> >statist socialism have in common. While I disagree with some aspects
> >of Yoshie's view of the internal affairs of the Iranian state, it
> >seems fairly clear that she is no "state socialist" as that term is
> >generally used
>
> An admirer of Lenin and Hobbes who believes that any future
> socialist/communist movement must take control of the state to be
> successful not a state socialist? What is a state socialist then?
>
> As far as the commonalities, briefly: Both populism and socialism
> find their representation/justification in the figure of "the
> people." The state is coterminus with the people, meaning there is
> always an other who is not the people, outside of the state, and
> populism and socialism are two types of politics that attempt to take
> hold of state power in order to carry out the function of drawing
> (and constantly redrawing, whenever it serves their purposes) the
> boundary between the people and the not-people, inside and outside
> the state. State socialism (eg, Chavismo) of course tends to exclude
> less along racial and gender lines that populism (eg, the US
> anti-immigration movement), but it still reserves the right to fix,
> but not dissolve, the boundaries.
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