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On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Tahir Wood wrote:
> "We're all anti-Israeli now" sounds more to the
> point and way more powerful to my ears.
And what does it mean? We don't like Israeli state/military policy?
Tahir: Yep.
Israel should withdraw to the pre-67 borders?
Tahir: That would be a beginning
We don't like religiously defined states?
Tahir: Yep.
We all want to push Israel into the sea?
Tahir: Meaningless (as you know); rather we want to destroy the apartheid/zionist regime.
Israelis are icky?
Tahir: In my experience many are, although never in any nation is that true of everyone.
And since, as an American, I help pay Israel's war bills, should I be anti-American too?
Tahir: No, you should be anti paying Israel's war bills.
If so, how? Should I emigrate?
Tahir: No, not to South Africa, anyway.
Take up violent revolution? Send angry posts to email lists?
Tahir: What does "take up violent revolution" mean to you, Doug? As for anger, you are much too mature and level headed ever to show that, I'm sure. What I had in mind was opposition to the notion of Israel, an exclusively Jewish state, which discriminates violently on the basis of (a) religion, (b) anti-Arab racism, (c) a mumbo-jumbo mystical notion of identity, which you retain even if you aren't religious. I was anti the South African regime in just this way. It is impossible to be anti-South African per se though, because the term "South Africa" does not have the same associations as "Israel", which is forever linked in my mind anyway to a, b and c above. Same goes for "America"; it's relatively neutral. See, it's all quite logical when you have someone like me to spell it out for you, isn't it? Anyway you can remain neutral on the question of Israel if it pleases you.
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