[lbo-talk] Re: [For Academic Freedom] Dershowitz and Grades of Human Beings

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 25 12:03:52 PDT 2006


Back during the 1982 Lebanon war, when it was still funny, Doonesbury had a strip about "baby terrorists."

Clearly, that is what we are dealing with here. When the little brats go up they will all become suicide bombers anyway, and blow themselves up, so the IDF is just accelerating the process a bit.

--- Joseph Graffis <usvi_57 at yahoo.com> wrote:


>
http://www.juancole.com/2006/07/dershowitz-and-grades-of-human-beings.html
>
> Juan Cole is President of the Global Americana
> Institute
> Monday, July 24, 2006
> Dershowitz and Grades of Human Beings
>
> Alan "Torture is OK" Dershowitz is annoyed that the
> Israelis have been accused of killing innocent
> civilians. He is now arguing that there are degrees
> of "civilianity." He wonders how many innocent
> civilians killed by Israel in Lebanon would still be
> innocent if we could make finer distinctions.
>
> (He should read the Lebanese newspapers and he would
> get the answer. One third of those killed by the
> Israelis are children. I'd guess they are all
> civilian all the time. And then there are the
> families, like the Canadian women, children and men
> blown up at Aitaroun. I suppose they are really
> civilians. Etc. )
>
> But I don't know why Dershowitz stops there. Let me
> reformulate his argument for him. Shouldn't we
> recognize degrees of humanness? After all, isn't
> that the real problem? That the enemy is considered
> a full human being in the law of war? That horrible
> Supreme Court judgment that Hamdan had to be given a
> trial of some sort was based on the misunderstanding
> that he is a human being.
>
> Israeli officials have already showed us how Arabs
> can be reclassified away from a full "human"
> category that they clearly, in the view of the
> Kadima government, do not deserve.
>
> For instance, Israeli ambassador to the United
> Nations Dan Gillerman angrily denounced Kofi Annan
> for neglecting this key fact. The Guardian reports,
> ' Mr Gillerman said "something very important was
> missing" from Mr Annan's speech: any mention of
> terrorism. Hizbullah were "ruthless indiscriminate
> animals", he told reporters. '
>
> So you see, one reason that you can just bomb the
> hell out of the Lebanese in general is that they
> aren't human beings at all. They are "animals." You
> might quibble that Gillerman is only referring to
> members of the Hizbullah party as animals, not all
> Lebanese. But most Shiite Lebanese, some 45 percent
> of the population, support Hizbullah. And the
> Lebanese government, made up of Christians, Sunnis
> and Druze, let Hizbullah into the Lebanese
> government and gave it cabinet posts. So probably
> those who tolerate Hizbullah are at most half-human.
> This has yet to be worked out. It might be possible
> to declare them .66 animal. Or maybe they are just
> all animals. They speak Arabic, after all, right Mr.
> Gillerman?
>
> There is a problem with stopping here, however. It
> is not enough to reclassify some human beings as
> animals. After all, you have to treat animals
> humanely. You can even be fined for mistreating an
> animal, though probably you would not go to jail.
>
> The staff of US Secretary of State Condi Rice has
> made a suggestion for another, more convenient
> level, that of snake. Thus, a senior White House
> official referred to the massive Israeli bombing
> campaign and destruction of Lebanon's civilization
> and killing of hundreds and wounding of over a
> thousand as "defanging" Hezbollah. I am pretty sure
> that language is meant to suggest that the Shiites
> of Lebanon, although apparently human beings, are
> actually snakes. I suppose it is possible that
> another sort of reptile is is intended, but I
> suspect that "snake" is the intended classification.
>
> But some snakes are protected species. We need a
> lower category. It is clear that some human beings
> are neither human nor animal. Hamas and Hizbullah
> members, for instance, are actually not even full
> organisms, just diseases.
>
> Israeli Deputy Consul General for San Francisco,
> Omer Caspi, said of the Lebanese and Palestinian
> publics concerning Hamas and Hizbullah members, "We
> say to them please remove this cancer off your body
> and soul before it is too late."
>
> Caspi did not specify whether members of Hamas are
> leukemia and those of Hizbullah melanoma, or the
> reverse.
>
> The good thing about finding out that some apparent
> human beings don't have to be treated as well as
> whales (which have almost been wiped out) is that it
> allows us to put behind all wimpy hesitancy just to
> do what needs to be done.
>
> I mean, a cancer. Everyone knows what you have to do
> with a cancer. It requires chemotherapy. It needs to
> be just exterminated, before it kills the snakes,
> animals and humans.
>
> So we have the human beings, like Israeli Prime
> Minister Ehud "Bomb'em Back to the Stone Age" Olmert
> and torture defender, attorney Alan Dershowitz.
>
> Then we have the animals, like the "persons" who
> vote for Hizbullah and Hamas.
>
> Then we have the level of human-appearing snakes,
> who need to be "defanged," which apparently involves
> killing their wives and children with air strikes.
>
> Then we have the cancers, who need to be "wiped out"
> immediately.
>
> I understand that President Bush is appointing Alan
> Dershowitz to be head of the "Human-Non-Human
> Metrics" commission that will decide which people
> are full human beings, and which fall into other
> categories, such as "animal," "snake," and "cancer."
>
> It is rumored that that Dershowitz intends to create
> a special category, of "cockroach," for the
> human-appearing creatures who dare to criticize him.
>
>
>
> posted by Juan @ 7/24/2006 06:01:00 AM
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