[lbo-talk] The very worst custodians of empire

ravi gadfly at exitleft.org
Mon Jun 26 08:23:52 PDT 2006


At around 26/6/06 10:31 am, Doug Henwood wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>> On 6/26/06, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How should we live then?
>>
>> First of all, begin with admitting to the basic truth of our lives:
>> the Iraq War is a disaster for Iraqis, but it's not yet (and may never
>> become) a disaster for us (if it were already a disaster for us, we
>> would be acting like we were being hit by a disaster).
>
> Who knows what the long-term consequences will be? In any case, what
> would you have us do? Don hair shirts and wail in the streets?
>

I think that may be an improvement to sitting on our arses and posting to mailing lists (which is what I do and what at least some on this list are probably also doing). But seriously: Chomsky wrote something about the responsibility of intellectuals. I think the points raised by him are applicable to all Americans, especially those professing a liberal or progressive motivation.


> You know, like Keynes said, "When the facts change, I change my mind.
> What do you do, sir?"

Didn't Einstein say something along the lines that one must not oscillate between theories based on the latest "fact"? ;-)

Again, seriously: IIRC it wasn't immediately after the war, but for quite a bit of time, that the Iraqis expressed a preference for American troops to stay. As a guy on the Leonard Lopate show (was it Reickoff?) pointed out the other day, the Iraqis are stuck between a rock and a hard place. To adopt the Bush camp's phraseology: "Bring the troops back", "Pull out now", sound to me more like slogans than a real plan (why not instead "Blue helmets now"?). I find appalling the response I have heard from the left, to the question of the danger of outright civil war or chaos, that the Iraqis will figure it out for themselves.

I guess that Carrol, if he hasn't tired of it, is going to respond with a thundering flame, which is always great reading, but doesn't quite IMHO speak to the pragmatic/thorny issues.

--ravi

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