Diminished Expectations (Re: [lbo-talk] plea from gay Iranian)

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Fri Jun 30 14:07:33 PDT 2006


Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> On Jun 30, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> > Doug Henwood wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> I'm not suggesting abandonment at all. I was trying to explain why
> >> people were excited about Chavez and not making more radical demands.
> >> The old ideas have lost some of their popular appeal, don't you
> >> think?
> >
> > Since the "old ideas" never had much "popular appeal" in the U.S.
> > it is
> > a bit strange to say that they have lost an appeal they never had.
>
> That's not exactly true - there was a vigorous socialist movement in
> the US in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and there was
> something of a rebirth in the 1960s and early 1970s.

Not "exactly true," but true enough to be important to keep in mind. What would the 1890s have been if confined to the native born? And the movement was loud and vigorous but rather thin in the '60s.

Carrol
>
> Doug
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