[lbo-talk] Colbert, Dafur, and Dems

Jim Farmelant farmelantj at juno.com
Wed May 3 13:17:57 PDT 2006


On Wed, 3 May 2006 13:26:51 -0400 "Luke Weiger" <lweiger at umich.edu> writes:


>


> On the other hand,
> Bush
> actually is _just like_ Yoshie in a very important respect. As
> Colbert
> frequently pointed out, Bush doesn't really care about facts.
> Neither does
> Yoshie.

I might take such a charge Yoshie more seriously, if you had bothered to spell out which facts Yoshie has allegedly been ignoring. Otherwise, I might be forced to conclude that it is you who is shoveling out the bullshit here.


> She obviously takes Marx's dictum that the real goal is to
> change
> the world very seriously, and when it appears instrumentally useful
> to
> misrepresent the world, that's what she'll do.

In what way or ways has Yoshie done this. Please don't hold back on our account.


> As Harry Frankfurt
> would
> recognize, Yoshie's a masterful bullshitter. This doesn't mean
> she's always
> wrong--bullshit needn't be false--but it does mean she's never worth
> a
> serious listen.

Let me get this straight. Yoshie is said to be a master bullshitter. Not that what she says is wrong. In fact if I understand you correctly, Yoshie might actually be telling us the truth, but nevertheless, she is still shoveling out bullshit at us. I don't think that I am the only one here to think that there is something wrong with this picture.


> (As an aside, if you actually want to think through
> the
> issues related to humanitarian intervention and international law,
> Peter
> Singer's _One World_ is a great place to start.)

OK, why don't you do us the favor of drawing out the implications of Singer's views for dealing with Dafur.


>
>
> -- Luke
>



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