Well, perhaps the good Shane Mage uses a valve tube computer, or perhaps protein cells, or thunderbolts?, to post to the Internet? ;-)
Jerry: I owe you a bunch of responses... coming up soon. WRT math, there is quite a significant bit of discussion within the community, on Math as Platonic vs Empirical. More in a bit...
--ravi
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