How is blowing up the Golden Mosque in Samarra resisting the Americans?
It's insane to call that "resistance". Did the French Resistance blow up Notre Dame?
There is resistance to Americans and there is disgusting, reactionary, racist and religious civil war going on at the same time. I mean that's just inarguable.
No rational person can possibly justify the kidnapping and murder of thousands of innocent civilians by death squads and this insane bombing of civilian Iraqis because Americans are there. And can you even stomach the justification for this conflict? What, to put in a regime like Iran - a hideous, backwards theocracy?
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Sometimes he's the enemy of my enemy because he's an even worse fucking scumbag. I don't see anything noble in the Iraqi resistance right now. It has been reduced to bad fighting worse.
The problem is that we are undermining and de-legitimating the decent people of Iraq who, OF COURSE would rather work with the Americans and the coalition than the savages of Al-Qaeda.
Look at the Kurds. They worked with the Americans and they have also developed a reasonably decent regime that has the support of the people. Their militias actually help protect Kurds from Arabs and Turks.
"Resisting the Americans" is not the signal moral test here.
When you smash a country to bits, the violent scumbags quickly start running it. Americans bear responsiblity from creating total political and practical disorder. But shooting children and cutting off people's heads because they worship the same god in a slightly different way is an Iraqi failing.
Just stop this lame, PC "more-disapproving-of-the-Americans-than-thou" nonsense.
Boddi
On 11/20/06, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
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> Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
> >
> > On 11/20/06, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Nov 20, 2006, at 1:28 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> > >
> > > He did. But compare the death tolls. The resistance, or the sectarian
> > > militias, or freelancers, whoever have killed many times more Iraqis
> > > than it/they have killed US soldiers.
> >
> > Isn't that because Washington has outsourced the work of occupation to
> > Iraqis, fomented sectarianism through the sectarian elections, and
> > failed to control Iraq's borders, so Iraq has become a magnet for
> > international jihadists (Saddam Hussein would never have allowed
> > _that_)?
>
> Doug is becoming an intellectual embarassment on this thread. The post
> in which he initiated the thread was juvenile, more appropriate to an
> Mpug than to someone who takes the trouble to think. His point here is
> about as profound as the solemn proposition that all black cats are,
> indeed, who would have thought of it, cats.
>
> Read Bernard Fall, war correspondent who had been part of the French
> Resistance, who points out that the French resistance killed far more
> French citizens than it killed Germans. EVERY resistance to an
> occupation does that. To make a fuss about it is about as intelligent as
> making a fuss about four balls being a walk in baseball.
>
> Any reasonably intelligent high-school sophomore should be able to
> figure out that under a savage and illegal occupation of a nation with
> its own internal divisions there is going to be unending horror, and no
> one nor no 5000 incidents of such horror show anything at all.
>
> Grow up, Doug.
>
> Carrol
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>
> Carrol
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