[lbo-talk] Open borders

boddi satva lbo.boddi at gmail.com
Tue Oct 3 15:37:00 PDT 2006


This is why we have to think about how we will make people economic citizens.

Capitalists enjoy economic citizenship across borders - we can't do that as socialists?

I think this is why the reliance of a barter/planned/rationing economy is a failed model. You just run into one major problem after another, borders being just one.

boddi

On 10/3/06, Michael McIntyre <mcintyremichael at mac.com> wrote:
> First you suspend the law of value. After that it's easy peasy!
>
> Socialism aside, it would be difficult to run a decent social
> democracy with open borders. Perhaps some sort of Citizen's Income
> plus other social benefits tied to citizenship, combined with open
> borders for migrants but no automatic conferral of citizenship,
> combined with a less generous set of social benefits for non-
> citizens. This would, of course, be horrifically unjust - but much
> less unjust than what we have now.
>
> Michael McIntyre
>
> On Oct 3, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I'm very sympathetic with this position, but as Hayek cogently
> > pointed out, the normal space for economic planning under socialism
> > or social democracy is the nation. How, in practical terms, do you
> > run an economy with completely open borders?
> >
> > Doug
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