[lbo-talk] Schweickarts critique of Parecon, Nonsense on Stilits.

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 20 11:36:35 PDT 2006


Indeed, there are tradeoffs everywhere. But the meetings objection isn't the fatal one. The fatal objection is that the system would include all the disadvantages of Soviet planning (systematically distorted inputs as people exaggerated their needs and minimized their capacities) plus all the disadvantages of democracy (amplified transaction costs, politicization, corruption, inefficiency, de facto control by an unaccountable elite -- her determined by Sitzfleish rather than money), and of the kind of democracy -- direct democracy that there is overwhelming evidence will not work in an large complex society. You can look up Hahnel's responses to my criticisms of parecon (long ago published here, and borrowed without attribution or permission by Hahnel -- or opportunity to respond -- and see if his repetition and argument by authority persuades you.

Carrol, your own repeated "maybe the beans are really magic, who knows" is not going to persuade anyobe either.

--- Andy F <andy274 at gmail.com> wrote:


> On 10/19/06, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A fine critique. Parecon seems impossible in both
> technical and
> > political terms. All that job-complex and
> consumption planning would
> > take up so much time. Really, who the fuck wants
> to spend all that
> > time in meetings?
>
> The complaint about the meetings (and yes, they
> suck) sounds like, "I
> want to have communal control over my destiny, but
> only if it's not
> too much trouble." Maybe that's just realism.
>
>
> --
> Andy
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