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> On Nov 1, 2006, at 12:15 AM, ravi wrote:
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> > At around 31/10/06 11:39 pm, Carrol Cox wrote:
> >> One side, essentially, holds that no progressive ends can be
> >> achieved except through the DP. The other side, essentially, holds
> >> that
> >> the DP is the prime barrier to progressive ends.
> >>
> >
> > I think you are misreading the ABB (for want of a better term)
> > position,
> > which many have expressed here and I have some sympathy with. It is
> > not
> > true that they hold that no progressive ends can be achieved except
> > through the DP. The argument rather is whether there is anything at
> > all
> > to be gained through the DP or is it a lost cause, or worse a prime
> > barrier as you hold. As we all seem to agree these things are not
> > binary
> > issues...
>
> Carrol is as dogmatic on this issue as the most dogmatic Trotskyist.
> There's no reasoning with him. ABBers ruined the antiwar movement,
> don't you see? I could go on.
>
> Doug
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