--- Angelus Novus <fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Nonetheless, I will never quite understand the point
> with the sort of "argument from the existing" of the
> type that Yoshie makes above. This seems rather
> similar to me to Chris Doss's argument that Putin is
> also admired in Russia, and that the standard of
> living there is improving.
>
What matters except standard of living? Coincidence with a Platonic form of the Ideal Society? Who cares?
> ex-NSDAP member Adenauer's Germany also experienced
> the Wirtschaftswunder. Why is the popularity of a
> leader and the standard of living in a country an
> argument for supporting a particular nation-state?
>
What the heck do you have against Adenauer's Germany?
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