http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/25/1318238
Maria
from the transcript:
JUAN COLE: Well, there's a behind the scenes, late at night in the alleyways, a civil war going on between Shiites, Iraqis, and Sunni Arabs. And this is a war that has many dimensions. It is a turf war. It's about ethnically cleansing neighborhoods, controlling territory. It's about rivalry over control of resources, including petroleum smuggling and antiquities smuggling, other kinds of smuggling. It is a political contest, to position themselves for when the Americans leave. But it is, it's certainly at this rate of death a civil war.
AMY GOODMAN: Civil war.
JUAN COLE: Without any doubt.
AMY GOODMAN: Unqualified.
JUAN COLE: Unqualified.