[lbo-talk] Carrol Cox/Chavez's speech

EverYoung Global Intellectual Enterprises uttarbahini at enet.com.np
Mon Sep 25 22:26:04 PDT 2006


Chavez's speech was the outcry of a person stifled by the reality. The poor fellow doesn't understand the era we are in--IMPERIALISM. And the people he sought solidarity from was his own imbecility. The LONG DEAD "NON" Aligned Movement. The heads of deadened nations, the fundamentalists, the warlords, the feudal lords, the hag-headed monsters, etc. That is pure nonsense. Imperailism is the world system, it can't be blocked by any national movement, alliance of nations, world leaders that are necessarily its slaves. Even if such an alliance takes place (which is in fact impossible) that will be nothing but an inferior and more wretched form of IMPERIALISM itself. Imperialism can only be stopped and ended by a World Revolution, that too ought to start from the USA itself. If Revolution occurs in USA today, the whole world will be changed within a couple of years. Revolution will thus be easy and quick. And that shall ultimately bring with it the life worthy of human beings; the habitat worth the humans. If on the other hand, the Revolution takes place in India or China, that will have the chance of meeting its death within a few years only. No revolution can survive unless that becomes the World Revolution. Chavez's speech expressed the message: "Bush is the Monster, to save your beautiful, glorious mastership over the laity of your own nations, to save the wretchedness you love in your people, to save the system of slavery (Stalinist, Feudal, Pre-feudal, "Young" Capitalist, etc.) come let us unite together!... And 'fight' against the US Monster--don't laugh, however, ridiculous it may sound.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck" <chuck at mutualaid.org> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] chavez, bush, the devil and jon stewart


> Carrol Cox wrote:
>
>> I've known anarchists, however, who unlike Chuck did know the meaning
>> of solidarity, and one could talk to them. There are/have been some on
>> this list in fact. Anarchists can also be deeply devisive and then cease
>> to be merely annoying. There is an entertaining tale of Big Bill Haywood
>> strapping on a 44 and muttering that he had to go clean out a nest of
>> anarchists in some local(I think Alberquerque) of the IWW.
>
> You must be smoking something interesting to equate criticism of some
> leftist world leader with not understanding what solidarity means.
>
> Of course, there are many ways to be in solidarity with people without
> supporting the person who runs their country. This is, after all, what
> anarchism is about. Anarchists don't support Chavez any more than they
> support George Bush, Tony Blair or fill in the blank name of a world
> leader here. One can oppose a leader like Chavez, oppose American
> imperialism, and act in solidarity with the Venezuelan people.
>
> To impugn my reputation by suggesting I don't understand solidarity is
> silly and ridiculous. I've run a website for the past 11 years that has
> provided solidarity to many people around the world, including more than a
> few people in prison. I've been involved in many protests, campaigns and
> projects offline and online in solidarity with people. I've been an
> organizer in the anti-globalization movement for many years. I've
> organized demonstrations in support of Mumia Abu-Jamal, Leonard Peltier,
> the Angola 3 and countless activists who have gone to jail. Last year I
> helped establish the Common Ground Medical Clinic in New Orleans, which
> has provided basic medical care to over 23,000 New Orleanians.
>
> Now what were you saying again about me not knowing the meaning of
> solidarity?
>
> Chuck
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