<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> Jim Devine wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid93dbbd490602161420n5e2201f7w6af35a3801f39e6d@mail.gmail.com"> <pre wrap="">On 2/16/06, Charles Brown <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cbrown@michiganlegal.org"><cbrown@michiganlegal.org></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The issue in dispute is whether I use the word excessively or whether you and others don't use it enough. You are asserting as true without supporting argument your position on what is in dispute.< </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Okay, then what kind of evidence or logic would convince you that the United States is not currently on the road to fascism (or already there)? To convince me that fascism is here, I'd have to see large numbers -- thousands -- of US citizens being treated in the same way that the prisoners in Guantanamo are being treated (incarcerated without legal basis, not charged, tortured). I might be in jail myself. The ACLU wouldn't be allowed to appeal. You wouldn't see members of the leading (vanguard?) party complaining about restrictions on civil liberties.</pre> </blockquote> Well, actually, the story about prisons in the U.S. since the late seventies has been pretty horrific. Joanna <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid93dbbd490602161420n5e2201f7w6af35a3801f39e6d@mail.gmail.com"> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>