<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> Carrol Cox wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid4400961C.7F7E7E9C@ilstu.edu"> <pre wrap="">It took quite awhile for Pennsylvanians, Georgians, Virginians, etc. to begin to idenfity as "americans." One would expect that (whatever the origins) after 70 years or so those who were labelled as "citizens of Iraq" would begin to see Iraq as real and themselves as Iraqis. It was happening, I believe, in Yugoslavia until various external powers tore it apart after the death of Tito. The process _may_, however, require civil war as a rite of passage. And a people can't have a healthy civil war if outside powers keep interfering.</pre> </blockquote> Riverbend seems to identify as an Iraqi. Joanna <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid4400961C.7F7E7E9C@ilstu.edu"> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>