<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:01 AM, BklynMagus wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Marta quotes David Pfieffer:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To use Berg's examples, capitalist and workers, corporations<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and the public, the imperialists and the dispossessed, and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">persons in and out of the power structure all tend to loathe<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">people with disabilities and want them out of the way.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">My brother is disabled and I do not think a single member of</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">my family wanted him out of the way.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>In fact, my mother lived</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">with one fear: that because my brother was adopted and his<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">disability was not apparent in the first weeks after his birth, the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">agency would take him away since there had been no discussion</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">about my parents taking a child with special needs.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Pfiefer lived his entire life using a wheelchair. When he died a couple of years ago he wass in his 60s. So he grew up when disabled children were ALWAYS segregated and put into classrooms beneath their capabilities. Then when he was of college age he faced not being able to take classes that were on the second floor because there was no ADA and hence no right to demand an elevator in a public institution of higher learning. This is just a wee taste of what his life was like - not being wanted by society otherwise it would have chosen to make the environment he grew up in different. He lived it brother. So please don't give me one little anecdote and think you know what you are talking about.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Why is this pervasive dislike and oppression of people with<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">disabilities not perceived by people in the other movements?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Because maybe it isn't there?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Lack of recognition of the needs</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of disabled people is not equivalent to or inspired by pervaisve<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">dislike.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>It is just S.O.B. for our hyperindividualistic society.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Pfeiffer's logic is crazed.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>You are off your rocker to say something like this. It just shows how immature and removed you really are. People know when they have worked for years and years to progress their issues and see the blockades erected. We know when we are hated. Give Pfieffer, a brilliant man, credit to speak for himself. We don't need your editorializing.<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV>Marta</DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></BODY></HTML>