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<DIV>What success? The Dens only won the popular Presidential vote in 1992 and 1996 because of Perot. On the Congressional level, Under New Dem leadership, the Dems definitively became the minority in 1994 - losing control of the House of Representatives, which they had - with a couple of breaks- dominated since 1932 and the Senate as well, Electorally they have never regained control of either chamber, evein when Clinton was re-elected.. In California, taking a centrist tack ensured that a Governor, Gray Davis, got humiliated by being recalled as did DLCer Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamonte, who got beat out by the Terminator in the race to succeed Davis, all in an overwhelmingly blue state. SR</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Luke Weiger" <lweiger@umich.edu> <BR><BR> In terms of winning elections at the presidential level, <BR>> tacking to the center post-Dukakis has arguably been a grand success for the <BR>> Dems. They won the popular vote in '92, '96, and '00, and probably would've <BR>> done so again in '04 if not for 9-11. <BR>> <BR>> -- Luke <BR>> <BR>> ___________________________________ <BR>> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>