<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> What made Rilke degenerate? Joanna Chris Doss wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20060509133702.3655.qmail@web37205.mail.mud.yahoo.com"> <pre wrap="">Althusser murdered his wife. Foucault (IIRC) knowingly exposed people to HIV. Therefore they must have had nothing good to say. Yawn. FWIW I think Heidegger was more a classical Mussolini-style Fascist than a Nazi. There's no biologism in Heidegger. In fact he argues vociferously against in in one of his Nietszche lecture courses, I don't remember which one. He was also a fan of "degenerate artists" such as, notably, Van Gogh, Rilke, and Trakl. --- andie nachgeborenen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:andie_nachgeborenen@yahoo.com"><andie_nachgeborenen@yahoo.com></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">You can wrath and contempt for Heidegger or Schmitt as a Nazi without thinking that this personal, political, and moral failing makes their thought worthless. The assertion that X was a a Nazi, therefore his ideas are crap, is an ad hominem. Granted, being a Nazi raises question about one's judgment that requires attention to the philosophy or political thought to determine whether the author's affiliations, poor judgment, or wickedness irreparably damage the ideas. I note here that that this is not a mater of the ideas being wrong; being wrong is no disgrace in a thinker as long as he is fruitfully wrong. But there are so-called thinkers whose allegiance to vile ideologies makes their thought into mere propaganda, worth only the historian's attention. Rosenberg, among the Nazis, copies to mind; lots of Stalinists too (e.g., Zhdanov), and many bourgeois economic and political writers. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Nu, zayats, pogodi! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mail.yahoo.com">http://mail.yahoo.com</a> ___________________________________ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk">http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>