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<body>yes, the mystical realms of conspiracy theory in which prosecutors toil in their efforts to bring cases against capitalist criminals for their conspiracies to fleece the people - e.g. Enron - which was doubtless a monumental conspiracy that was prosecutued based on a theory of how it was carried out. that is, marxist analysis deals with abstraction - 'conspiracy theory' deals with the reality of capitalism.<br><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">&gt; Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:14:48 -0700<br>&gt; From: fuerdenkommunismus@yahoo.com<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] 9/11 plot denialists are nuttier<br>&gt; To: lbo-talk@lbo-talk.org<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; ---&nbsp;Jerry&nbsp;Monaco&nbsp;&lt;monacojerry@gmail.com&gt;&nbsp;wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;In&nbsp;the&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;ruling<br>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;classes&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;capitalist&nbsp;system&nbsp;they&nbsp;substitute<br>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;the&nbsp;grand&nbsp;conspiracy&nbsp;of<br>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;history.&nbsp;&nbsp;And&nbsp;this&nbsp;happens&nbsp;over&nbsp;and&nbsp;over&nbsp;again.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Maybe&nbsp;the&nbsp;fact&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;grand&nbsp;conspiracy&nbsp;of&nbsp;history<br>&gt; can&nbsp;be&nbsp;used&nbsp;to&nbsp;substitute&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;place&nbsp;of&nbsp;ruling<br>&gt; classes&nbsp;should&nbsp;suggest&nbsp;to&nbsp;us&nbsp;that&nbsp;attributing&nbsp;things<br>&gt; to&nbsp;the&nbsp;ruling&nbsp;classes&nbsp;is&nbsp;nothing&nbsp;but&nbsp;a&nbsp;watered-down,<br>&gt; Marxist&nbsp;version&nbsp;of&nbsp;conspiracy&nbsp;theory.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Not&nbsp;that&nbsp;there&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;a&nbsp;ruling&nbsp;class&nbsp;(and&nbsp;an&nbsp;owning<br>&gt; class),&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;just&nbsp;that&nbsp;these&nbsp;classes&nbsp;are&nbsp;immanent<br>&gt; categories&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;society&nbsp;of&nbsp;generalized&nbsp;commodity<br>&gt; production.&nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;ascribe&nbsp;these&nbsp;classes&nbsp;too&nbsp;much&nbsp;agency<br>&gt; when&nbsp;we&nbsp;forget&nbsp;that&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;just&nbsp;as&nbsp;subsumed&nbsp;to&nbsp;the<br>&gt; imperatives&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;value&nbsp;form&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;state&nbsp;as&nbsp;much&nbsp;as<br>&gt; the&nbsp;rest&nbsp;of&nbsp;us&nbsp;are.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; The&nbsp;two&nbsp;overriding&nbsp;imperatives&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;society,<br>&gt; depending&nbsp;upon&nbsp;where&nbsp;one&nbsp;is&nbsp;positioned&nbsp;in&nbsp;it,&nbsp;are&nbsp;1)<br>&gt; one's&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;sell&nbsp;one's&nbsp;ability&nbsp;to&nbsp;labor&nbsp;in&nbsp;exchange<br>&gt; for&nbsp;a&nbsp;wage&nbsp;and&nbsp;2)&nbsp;the&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;accumulate&nbsp;capital&nbsp;in<br>&gt; order&nbsp;to&nbsp;maintain&nbsp;one's&nbsp;self&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;competition<br>&gt; between&nbsp;capitals.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; The&nbsp;state's&nbsp;role&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;maintain&nbsp;a&nbsp;stable&nbsp;framework&nbsp;for<br>&gt; those&nbsp;two&nbsp;imperatives.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Once&nbsp;we&nbsp;depart&nbsp;from&nbsp;that,&nbsp;we&nbsp;enter&nbsp;the&nbsp;mystical&nbsp;realms<br>&gt; of&nbsp;conspiracy&nbsp;theory.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; __________________________________________________<br>&gt; Do&nbsp;You&nbsp;Yahoo!?<br>&gt; Tired&nbsp;of&nbsp;spam?&nbsp;&nbsp;Yahoo!&nbsp;Mail&nbsp;has&nbsp;the&nbsp;best&nbsp;spam&nbsp;protection&nbsp;around&nbsp;<br>&gt; http://mail.yahoo.com&nbsp;<br>&gt; ___________________________________<br>&gt; http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk<br></body>
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