[lbo-talk] Radicalizing the carbon cycle

Patrick Bond pbond at mail.ngo.za
Tue Apr 10 21:42:07 PDT 2007


Doug Henwood wrote:
> Do you & your co-authors take on the substance of any of the
> bourgeois proposals?
>
Well, the coeditors and I have tried to assemble the most detailed critiques of the actual SA projects possible. Will send the book manuscript offlist for you to judge.


> Which is pretty similar to Stern, no? Their goals are on the light
> side, and they're vague about how to get there

No, they are pretty clear, they want market mechanisms.


> ...wouldn't it be more
> fruitful to say, "Yes, it's good to see such important people
> acknowledging the seriousness of the problem, but we can do a lot
> better than this..."?
As I may have said before, there are 'reformist reforms' which make the problem worse and take the wind out of the movement's sails, on the one hand, and on the other, 'non-reformist reforms' which change power balances so the problems can be addressed more fundamentally and by a movement with growing momentum. We're looking for the latter; market enviros seem happy with the former - for now, until it becomes very clear that matters are genuinely worse...



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