[lbo-talk] jacobins

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Sat Apr 14 07:23:36 PDT 2007


Michael Smith wrote:
>
> On Saturday 14 April 2007 09:21, bitch at pulpculture.org wrote:
> > Someone I met at work uses an handle that references Jacobites. When I
> > virtually nudged him about it, he said, "totally" and mentioned '45. I
> > assume 18th or 19th c. but can't figure out what he's talking about.
>
> Only one thing it can mean: he's a supporter of the Stuarts against the line
> of vulgar German hirelings who know occupy the English throne. '45
> refers to the unsuccessful attempt in 1745 by Charles Edward Stuart,
> aka Bonnie Prince Charlie and The Young Pretender, to reclaim the throne
> for Charles' father James, aka the Old Pretender. (The Young Pretenders
> wouldn't be a bad name for a band, or perhaps an early-music consort.)

If you came at night like a broken king, If you came by day not knowing what you came for. . . .

T.S. Eliot, Little Gidding

(Of course this was about a century earlier than '45.)

Carrol
>
> Not quite the same thing as Jacobins. Gotta watch your suffixes around here.
>
>
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