[lbo-talk] another obscure question

B. docile_body at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 15 03:48:54 PDT 2007


Some of the "OCCULT SECRETS OF THE NAZIS!!"stuff you see replayed -- and it seems almost endlessly esp. on the History Channel (facetiously dubbed "the Hitler Channel" by someone I knew) really devolves into bad, hamfisted sensationalism, resembling tracts like "MARX & SATAN" by Richard Wurmbrand.

Having said that, I do have Nickolas Goodrick-Clark's _The Occult Roots of Nazism_ and while it is fascinating to dwell on some of the occult inroads made into, or that prefigured, the volkish philosophy adopted by many NSDAP ideologues, my understanding is that probably the definitive text in this area might by Alfred Rosenberg's _The Myth of the 20th Century_. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Rosenberg

Rosenberg was hanged after Nuremberg; he was promised by Hitler to be the Reichsfuhrer of the occupied "lebensraum" of the Eastern/Soviet territories, once those were conquered. The _Myth of the 20th Century_ was/is one of the key Nat'l Socialist texts that endeavors to give an all-around philosophical basis for Nazism, rejecting Christianity and touting the primacy of pagan Germanic myth.

The Nazis, far from being a monolith, never did (nor have their adherents to this day) resolved the pro-Christian versus pre-Christian question. There were important Nazi officials all too willing to present Nazism as Christian, and to reconcile it especially with the "Nazi pope" who basically supported Mussolini -- and the heathen pagan Germanic folk religion NSDAP ideologues who wanted to slough off Christianity altogether. That core ideological tension was never resolved.

James Heartfield mentions the World Socialist Web Site, and while a great resource at many times, that site for me gets some low points for basically casting a broad, sweeping condemnation of Nietzsche, something anti-fascist leftists like Foucault, Bataille, Blanchot, and even Pasolini, never would do in a heartbeat. (In fact Bataille wrote brilliant Nietzschean anti-fascist essays that showed how the Nazi reconstruction of Nietzsche and the real Nietzsche simply did not gel -- these are some of Bataille's most accessible writings, too.)

To the WSWS, Nietzsche seems to be all proto-Nazi, or just as bad as an actual Nazi, just as the Nazis themselves would have had you believe. But though he wrote odious passages, there's still much value in Nietzsche's work, just as there's value in Mencken, Bierce, Schopenhauer, folks cited some anti-Semitic paragraphs in bakunin's writings, I mentioned Engels racist anti-SLave stuff -- and others who've unfortunately placed really objectionable passages in their works that otherwise display flashes of piercing brilliance. We cant' cast it all aside wholesale even if crap comes from the pens sometimes.

-B.

James Heartfield wrote:
> On the Nazi occultism there is something to it. In
so far as they were
> intellectuals, the Nazis were in the mainstream of
German romanticism, which
> appealed - lightly - to a pre-Christian
primordialism. But this is only the
> equivalent of Britain's nineteenth century celtic
revivial, or even the
> pre-Raphaelites interest in Anglo-Saxonism.
>
> There was a good documentary on "Hitler's search for
the Holy Grail" on
> Channel 4 here, though it overstates the case
somewhat. Here's a write-up
>
http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/sep1999/nazi-s23.shtml



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