[lbo-talk] Bad psychology (Was Re: the virginina universitymassacre)

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 17 22:51:13 PDT 2007


What do you mean, get over it? Don't worry about it because, like bad weather, there's nothing you can do about it? Why are you making me guess about your meaning, here and in the post I replied to? Is this a new argumentative strategy, say opaque misleading things that are susceptible to interpretations you don't maintain, then say Aha! Fool! when someone "guesses" wrong about what you meant? Very clever. I will stop discussing things with you, not having time to decode the gnomic mutterings of gnostic gun nuts.

Rest content, however, that while I think your right to arm bears position is irrational and dangerous, I cede the ground to you on the basis that I have already stated, namely the fight's not worth the candle, and an attempt to create a policy I'd consider sensible would stir up a hornets' nest of right wing activist voters who might otherwise stay quietly in their tree.

Maybe if the Supreme Court follows the DC Circuit in reading the "well regulated militia" out of the 2d Amendment and says it's a fundamental right to own an Kalashnikov, your lot can cuddle up to your arsenal, fantasize about fighting the 101st Airborne to preserve freedom or shooting muggers or mass murderers or whatever it is you fantasize about, coming out to announce loudly, when a massacre occurs, that the killer would have done it with a broken bottle anyway, and you will just leave the rest of us alone.

Now I have to go to bed, because I have to get up early to drive my 14 year old son to school, as some idiot classmate chose Friday to try to get in a fight with him, threatened him with a cinder block, then announced loudly enough for a nearby adult to hear that he was going to get a gun and shoot my boy. I suppose that is something I should get over too, and maybe if I were you I'd get the boy a gun and teach him, or have someone who knew teach him, how to kill people who threaten him. But being a whiny liberal, I have taught him to disengage from fights and, because there is a very marginal possibility that the idiot might try to carry out his threat, since access to guns is easy and in any event there are always cinder blocks, I have to drive to to school and my wife has to drive him home until we figure out how to monitor the idiot's behavior. I guess I have to get over that too.

Well, serves me right for trying to reason with you. Please, take your guns and go home. I'll get over it.

--- Jordan Hayes <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com> wrote:


> > Jordan's theory, implicit in this rhetorical
> question,
> > is that there are millions or hundreds of
> thousands or
> > even thousands of people who would in fact attempt
> to
> > kill lots of people with a gun, but are deterred
> by
> > the thought that so many other private individuals
> are
> > armed and would kill them if they tried.
>
> No actually, Jordan's "theory" is closer to
> something that Wojtek said
> earlier: this is aberrant behavior, guns don't
> magically make people
> homicidal. A few people blow a gasket now and again
> and kill a handful
> of people, for reasons that don't seem to make much
> sense and don't seem
> to fall into much of a pattern. Get over it!
>
> So maybe change your Subject: line from "bad
> psychology" to "bad guess"
> ...?
>
> /jordan
>
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