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>
>
> Marvin wrote:
>
>
> > > John: the big issue here is racism -- the
> different
> > > standards applied to black and white athletes.
> >=================================
> >In general, yes, but how to square this statement
> with the similar response
> >to Dave McGuire's steroid use when he broke Babe
> Ruth's home run record in
> >1998?
>
>
> You mean Mark McGwire breaking Roger Maris's record?
> Nobody's taken
> heat like Bonds, even before the most damaging
> allegations came
> out. And nobody really called McGwire on anything
> until he melted
> down in front of Congress after he retired. He got
> heat for being an
> idiot more than he did for taking anything.
>
> But speaking of Babe Ruth, everybody loves to laugh
> and say he did it
> on hot dogs and beer, but there's evidence he
> injected himself with
> extract of sheep testicles, a stop on the slouch
> towards steroids.
>
>
>
> ===============================
> Yes. Abashed...Is extract of sheep's testicles any
> good for memory?
>
> _^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^
> CB: Wow. First I've heard of sheep's testicles. I
> guess that would be from rams.
>
> Also, I don't know if this is a Bronx legend, but
> "they" say Babe would do the wild thing , stopping
> off in a cab on the way to games at Yankee Stadium.
> I wonder whether that might pump up his testosterone
> or some other hormonal level. On the other hand it
> is said when a player hits a lot of or long home
> runs in soft ball games that he has been "sleeping
> on the couch", 'cause doin' it heavy does use up a
> lot of strength. We don't know if Babe was doin' it
> heavy or light. Hey Babe , hey Babe !
>
> I still can make an argument that Babe Ruth was the
> best all around player ever, because he was on his
> way to the Hall of Fame as a pitcher, when he was
> switched to an outfielder. None of the other home
> run kings could pitch. Also, Babe Ruth used to hit
> like .375 _and_ hit 50 home runs. Of course, being a
> good pitcher, probably made him a better hitter,
> because he knew how pitchers were thinking.
>
> Plus, he wasn't a slow runner , stole bases, despite
> his image as sort of stout ( I see from the pictures
> in wikipedia that he wasn't stout when he was
> "younger" before the classic images of him with a
> big potbelly hitting home runs). Babe Ruth used to
> play in the inter-racial , barnstorming games mixing
> major leaguers and negro leaguers. Ty Cobb on the
> other hand was a notorious racist.
>
> Yet, on advantages, when Ruth jumped up the season
> home run total to the 40's and 50's, baseball had
> just outlawed doctoring the ball - spit ball, emory
> board balls, cut the cover balls, grease balls, all
> kinds of foreign substance balls. In other words ,
> the pitchers were suddenly disarmed. Ruth caught
> them in the interim years before they developed new
> weapons.
>
> And what about tobacco, chewing tobacco ? That gives
> the players a jolt from a drug. Even alcohol gives
> some a lift. Micky Mantle and his gang were
> drinkers. In the long run tobacco and alcohol
> shorten life, but in the immediate situation they
> may give an advantage.
>
> Many baseball players historically , the ones whose
> records are being held up as sacred now, were
> gashouse gang , Chicago Black Sox and other street
> life types, not "good " role models. You have Pete
> Rose in contrast with Cal Ripken , Jr. You have Babe
> Ruth ,the bad boy, in contrast with Lou Gehrig ,
> sort of a straight arrow, I believe, college man,
> Iron Horse.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Babe Ruth
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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> This article is about the pitcher and outfielder.
> For the band, see Babe Ruth (band). For award, see
> Babe Ruth Award. For the candy bar, see Baby Ruth.
> Babe Ruth
>
> Outfielder/Pitcher
>
> Born: February 6, 1895
> Died: August 16, 1948 (aged 53)
> Batted: Left Threw: Left
> MLB debut
> July 11, 1914
> for the Boston Red Sox
> Final game
> May 30, 1935
> for the Boston Braves
> Career statistics
> AVG .342
> HR 714
> RBI 2213
> Pitching Wins/Loss: 94-46 ERA: 2.28
>
> Teams
> Boston Red Sox (1914–1919)
> New York Yankees (1920–1934)
> Boston Braves (1935)
>
> Career highlights and awards
> All-Time records
> Career SLUG: 0.690
> Career OPS: 1.164
> Notable achievements
> Inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in
> 1936
> 2nd in career OBP (.469)
> 3rd on All-Time Home Run list (714)
> Only player to hit 3 home runs twice in a World
> Series game (1926 & 1928)
> Won the 1923 AL League Award (precursor to MVP)
> Appeared in 1933 & 1934 All-Star Game
> First player ever to hit 60 home runs in a season
>
> Member of the National
> Baseball Hall of Fame
> Elected 1936
> Vote 95.13%
> George Herman Ruth, Jr. (February 6, 1895 – August
> 16, 1948), also known as "Babe", "The Great
> Bambino", "The Sultan of Swat", "The King of Crash"
> and "The Colossus of Clout", was an American Major
> League baseball player from 1914-1935. He is widely
> regarded as one of the greatest baseball players in
> history. Many polls place him as the number one
> player of all time[citation needed].
>
> Although he spent most of his career as an
> outfielder with the New York Yankees, Ruth began his
> career as a successful starting pitcher for the
> Boston Red Sox. He compiled a 89-46 win-loss record
> during his time with the Red Sox and set several
> World Series pitching records. In 1918, Ruth started
> to play in the outfield and at first base so he
> could help the team on a day-to-day basis as a
> hitter. In 1919, he appeared in 111 games as an
> outfielder. He also hit 29 home runs to break Ned
> Williamson's record for most home runs in a single
> season.
>
> ...
>
>
> More than his statistics, Ruth completely changed
> baseball itself, and the popularity of the game
> exploded in the 1920s largely due to him. He ushered
> in the "live-ball era" as his big swing led to
> gargantuan home run totals that not only excited
> fans, but helped change baseball from a low-scoring,
> speed dominated game to a high scoring, power game.
> He became the first true American sports celebrity
> superstar whose fame transcended baseball. Off the
> field he was famous for his charity, but also was
> noted for his often reckless lifestyle that
> epitomized the hedonistic 1920s. Ruth became an
> American icon, and even though he died nearly 60
> years ago his name is still one of the most famous
> names in all of American sports.
>
>
> ....
>
>
> Early life
> Ruth was born at 216 Emory Street in southern
> Baltimore, Maryland.[1] His maternal grandfather,
> German
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