[lbo-talk] Nietzsche/Sophists (was: Interview w/ S-Haters)

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 21 14:26:38 PDT 2007


Such mentioning that we don't really know all that much of what the Sophists actually thought...

--- BklynMagus <magcomm at ix.netcom.com> wrote:


> > Which tradition is Nietzsche in on this issue?
>
> Nietzsche liked the Sophists for their
> anti-authoritarian stance, their championing of
> rhetoric, and their opposition to the dogmatic
> thinking of the Socratic schools.
>
> He says subsequent generations have come to see them
> as immoral after seeing the hate piled on them by
> Plato and his gang: "for now we suspect that it must
> have a been a very immoral culture, since Plato and
> all the Socratic schools fought against it!"
> (Daybreak)
>
> Nietzsche demonstrates (unknowingly, I think) a
> Buddhist appreciation of the Sophists when he
> praises their ability to engage in agons of rhetoric
> that chalenge the notions of a permanent self.
> Self, morality and desire are all conditioned states
> that need to be contested on a continuous basis.
>
> As usual, Nietzsche rocks.
>
> Brian
>
>
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