[lbo-talk] "Save subprime borrowers, not bloated bankers" by Dean Baker

B. docile_body at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 23 08:41:21 PDT 2007


Woj,

I'm pretty much with you on this and I know what you're getting at, but it's still important to remember that WASPs support collectives of many forms -- corporations and nation-states, for example. Of course, they don't think of these things as collectives, because that sounds too ideologically unsavory to them, and like you said, anything with the word "collective," in it sets off doctrinal red flags and their brains shut down and they reflexively get contrarian, etc. The sorts of "nanny state for the rich" collectively-funded programs that Dean Baker, for ex., writes about, also seem to be accepted by WASPs by and large.

These types of collectives (that is, corporations, nation-states) are highly authoritarian, which oddly makes them okay. While many folks in capitalist societies have an image of a "socialist nation" as being like a bee hive, with worker bees, or an ant hill, with worker ants, etc., -- ironically it is the corporations they work at that most resemble this schema, not the ideal of an egalitarian collective or cooperative.

-B.

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:

"I quite honestly believe that the popular resistance to this form of housing is psychological rather than systemic. Most people I spoke to on this subject were not swayed by financial arguments, but instead they said they preferred the comfort of individual ownership, even if it was a more expensive option. It is not a coincidence that coops are limited mostly to ethnic minorities (especially Jews and Blacks) who internalized the norms of social solidarity to a greater degree than a typical WASP. "



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