[lbo-talk] Contradiction

[Robert Wrubel]

--- Eubulides <prince.plumples at gmail.com> wrote:

"Why not just use the vocabularies of ecology and
evolutionary theory? There is little dispute that our
current institutional formations are maladaptive with
respect to  our species and others relations with the
planet and it gives us a handle for slowly rolling
back the nefarious grip of theistic worldviews on our
political imaginations."

I missed the early part of this thread, and didnt
understand why a discussion of contradiction had
become involved with disputes about realism, idealism
and materialism.  Broadly speaking, human enterprises
are contradictory -- wars, formation of states,
economies, religions, personal relationships. Homer
ascribes the contradictions to gods; Sophocles locates
them in human projects. The two great attempts by
Europeans to control their world -- christianity and
capitalism -- are tragically contradictory.

BobW



> On Nov 30, 2007 10:22 PM, Robert Wrubel
> <bobwrubel at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Instead of saying contradictions are in the mind,
> or
> > in the physical world, why not say contradictions
> > arise in human attempts to interpret or control
> > natural processes?  A river will meander wherever
> the
> > laws of physics allow it to, without
> contradiction,
> > but human attempts to direct a river's course
> often
> > fail. Human attempts to plunder the planet will
> fail
> > too, eventually.
> > BobW
> 
> 
> ===========
> 
> Why not just use the vocabularies of ecology and
> evolutionary theory?
> There is little dispute that our current
> institutional formations are
> maladaptive with respect to  our species and others
> relations with the
> planet and it gives us a handle for slowly rolling
> back the nefarious
> grip of theistic worldviews on our political
> imaginations.
> 
> Ian
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