> Both and neither. It's a tautology, but not _just_ a tautology. The
> spontaneous psychology/neuroscience people respond from is that of a
> homonunculus sitting in the brain; it is incredibly difficult to get rid
> of that response, and recognizing the identity of neural events and
> thought/feeling/sense/etc is a first step. It's really possible that the
> brain can't understand itself, and we will never have a complete
> understanding of consciousness. But forward movement does require
> getting rid of both the homonunculus and the cartesian 'soul.'
>
> Carrol
You're a determinist? Doesn't strong (or any) psycho/neural intimacy require this approach?
John Thornton