I believe the appropriate expression here is fuck off. After your vile remark comparing me to an afterbirth, you'restill not engaging in any debate about the potential real issues that might arise from Bitch's and my position, you just assume the Marx's "crude communism," the leveling down to the lowest common denominator" (1844 MS) is the proper idea for leftists. That puts you and me (and Bitch and William Morris) on opposite sides, there' nothing more to discuss. It's for reasons like this in part that I am happy to identify my position as bourgeois, so you can't insult me that way; I take it as a correct characterization and a compliment. You can think the less of me; a fella is known my his enemies. I am glad to have you as on. Ta ta. Hope you remember to look for the union label in jeans and t-shirts.
--- Alfred Landman <landmana at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bitch, I am on your team! Let's wall-to-wall this
> whole planet with those hard&wood&floors that
> sparkle and and (dis)cover our walls (with)in
> Ralph&Lauren&Paints and and and and if there is any
> sweet(crude) juice left in her belly, maybe we can
> custom-paint the remaining trees in happy fashion
> colours, too. Yes, not just you and me (and,
> gutfeelingly, a few other billion human animals) are
> dying for a little face&lift: the whole damn
> beautiful ball of Mutter&erde* is.
>
> Mode&macher, unite!
>
> Alfred Landman
>
> * mmind you: this time I dare not to put
> Mutter&Kuchen back in mmmaul
>
> bitch at pulpculture.org wrote:
> good. i hate this crap too. as most of you know,
> i've made this huge
> transition in my life. i wrote this post that feels
> ridiculous sometimes,
> but i had to record this.
>
> do you know what it's like to be surrounded by
> beautiful things when, once,
> you weren't? And i'm not even talking the designer
> stuff andie's talking
> about. just freakin' craft maid cabinets. or walls
> painted with quality
> paint, not whatever shit is cheap at walmart. a wood
> floor that's been
> taken care of and shines -- not the beat up thing I
> once had with
> stainsfrom a dog's piss on it, scratched, dull, etc.
>
> do you know what's it like to buy, no not even the
> best clothes, but a few
> rungs up the ladder from walmart. The clothes fit
> better, feel better, wear
> better, resist stains and pilling, and don't get
> dull so quickly. I suspect
> well made clothes are even better.
>
> i walk to work every day. i walk to the gym. and i
> can't get over it some
> days. the bricks are fucking gorgeous. (yeah: i know
> i'm crazeeee) because
> someone cared about making a street easier to walk
> on and look nice. yeah,
> it was to attract the yups and raise property
> values. But I walk on those
> bricks and sometimes, i want to get on the ground
> and kiss them, they're so
> beautiful -- and not concrete.
>
> Or just the way the windows in the high rise condos
> were made so that,when
> they're opened, they reflect the blue sky and I time
> it so I can visit a
> window at work every day, just to freaking see the
> patch work of beautiful
> blue peeking out here and there among the brownish
> gray. i'm sure some
> architectural snob will explain why the building's a
> piss of sheet, but for
> me, and compared to where I've been living (in lower
> middle class stuckoed
> out the hoo ha surburbanian hell -- someone kill me
> if I ever move to the
> suburbs again!), it's glorious.
>
> I mean, even compared to the suburb I just moved
> from, which was supposedly
> one of the more sought after neighborhoods. IT had
> all the accoutrements of
> the YUP condo village, the whole she-bang. but there
> was something about it
> that felt wrong. When we moved in, after a few days,
> we realized: the crap
> construction, the shoddy materials, and the poor
> workmanship because people
> were prob. paid crap. (Maybe the ppl were paid crap
> for the nicer stuff,
> too. Don't know)
>
> My point is, I guess, that I really fucking resent
> it when people pull this
> shit. I hate the authenticity game, but fuck me
> dead. Why do people who
> probably never done anything other than to *choose*
> to live a life of
> denial think they get to speak for the rest of us
> who lived most of our
> lives that way because we had little choice -- or at
> least very limited ones.
>
> Yeah, I worry about the things andie mentions in his
> later post, and the
> positional goods stuff doug talks about. But it's
> not fashion we're talking
> about: it's beauty, quality, joy, passion. Deny
> people that at our peril.
>
>
>
> At 05:44 PM 12/14/2007, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
>
> >You it pisses the fucking shit out of me when
> >sanctimonious right wing reporters and others,
> >including more-prolet-than though leftists, set
> >themselves up as fashion police for the left, as if
> >(a) right wingers have any fucking business telling
> us
> >what the proper clothes for a socialist might be
> >(maybe we can tell them that jeans and t-shirts are
> >verboten for fascist creeps, neocon lapdogs, and
> >bourgeois apologists?), and (b) certain self-styled
> >leftists think that worn jeans and a work shirt is
> a
> >requirement to be on the left, like some sort of a
> >fucking uniform.
> >
> >Back in the day M&E, the German SDP, and even the
> old
> >Bolshies work suits and ties or nice dresses. You
> >better bet Engels was clothed on Saville Row, and
> Marx
> >dressed as well as he could afford (as well as
> Engels
> >would provide him). Rosa Luxemburg was a fashion
> >plate. Look at those hats! So was Alexandra
> Kollontai.
> >I've seen some of Lenin's nice wardobe in the
> former
> >Lenin museum in Moscow (since closed), lots of good
> >French, Swiss, and English tailoring he brought
> back
> >from exile. And afater the assassination attempt,
> an
> >armored Rolls Royce. Even Stalin smoked Dunhill
> pipes.
> >
> >It's post hippie crap, not anything left, that
> makes
> >jeans, t-shirts, and work clothes the "expected"
> >uniform of the left. And the right wing has no
> >business whatsoever accusing us of hypocrisy or
> >telling us what to wear. I think they shoulf wear
> >prison orange and chains, how about that? Let them
> >excuse their sell-outs of the free market and
> >bourgeois liberties before they pick on our
> clothes.
> >
> >OK, _I_ wear Armani and Versace and Loro Piana and
> >even fancier stuff you never heard of unless you're
> a
> >fashionista like me (bought on eBay for a fraction
> of
> >list, that's my secret, shh, don't tell); I have a
> >Florentine tailor and a good tailor in Chicago AND
> I'M
> >NOT ASHAMED OF IT. Au contraire, I am pleased and
> >proud to look good. I'm wearing an Armani shearling
> >jacket RIGHT NOW in fact! I LIKE to look better
> than
> >schlumpfy right wingers. Why shouldn't we be
> smarter,
> >sexier, better informed, better dressed, and more
> >stylish than the enema, er, the enemy?
> >
> >As (I think it was) Aneurin Bevan said, nothing is
> too
> >good for the working class. Why shouldn't the
> >proletariat wear Prada? Who gave the Devil a
> monopoly
> >on fine clothes? Fuck the Mao suit and the jeans,
> >Vuitton for all!
> >
> >Btw, you notice how advocates of socialism "spout"
> it,
> >as if it were some fort of effluence, rather than
> >urge, argue, or advocate it? I saw we say that the
> >right "vomits" reaction, in the Biblical sense,
> like
> >the dog that returneth to its vomit.
> >
> >--- "B." wrote:
> >
> > > Vuitton-clad official spouts socialism
> > > Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:40am EST
> > >
> > > CARACAS (Reuters) - A video of a Gucci- and
> Louis
> > > Vuitton-clad politician attacking capitalism
> then
> > > struggling to explain how his luxurious clothes
> > > square
> > > with his socialist beliefs has become an instant
> > > YouTube hit in Venezuela.
>
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