[lbo-talk] Guardians of the public interest (was Questions for Doug)

Michael McIntyre mcintyremichael at mac.com
Thu Dec 20 07:58:40 PST 2007


I'm afraid I agree that the notion of a "public interest" in the US is effectively dead. (John Roemer had an interesting paper in APSR a few years ago showing that conservatives have an interest in corrupting government because corrupt governments instantiate their claim that governments cannot safeguard the public interest or anything like it). But I'm not so sure about this: "most European countries where governments are institutional guardians of public interest". Back in my younger and more hopeful days, I thought that Mitterand's (1981) election in France was the harbinger of such a government. Instead, you had an orgy of corruption by PS officeholders. I certainly saw the same thing in the UK when I lived there in the early 90s. I have heard from time to time that the Italian government isn't entirely on the up and up. Felipe Gonzalez's PSOE government apparently had all four feet in the trough. So which European government is Woj talking about? Germany? (An honest question, not a snark).

The depressing part is that these conclusions push you to the kinds of public choice premises that Gordon and Tullock harvested to reactionary effect. I saw that a couple of years ago Adam Przeworski published a book on political economy that pushes public choice in a different direction. Anyone know anything about it?

Michael McIntyre mcintyremichael at mac.com

"Il n'est pas facile d'affranchir ceux qui vénèrent leurs chaînes." --Voltaire

On Dec 20, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
>
>
> [WS:] Yes, ideed. I was sitting on a DC metro today
> morning, spacing out & gazing at a poster of some law
> school beaming an upbeat message about public interest
> lawyers. It suddenly struck me that there is no
> public interest in the US - the closest to it that
> this country ever had was the post World War 2
> militarism that you mention in your posting.
>
> Unlike most European countries where governments are
> institutional guardians of public interest, the sole
> raison d'etre of the USG is the protection of property
> and financial interests of the business class and
> providing contracting opportunities for the
> well-connected members of that class. Public interest
> is served only accidentally, inasmuch as it coincides
> with the interests of the business class. An indedd
> it is in the interest of the business class to keep
> its chattel in a relatively good shape to maintain its
> productive and consuming potential.
>
> I also realized that the problem of reformers,
> idealists, activists, "bleeding hearsts," radicals,
> etc. is the delusion that there is such as a thing as
> public interest in Amerika and that interest will be
> served if only "we" (whoever that is) do the "right
> thing" - i.e. vote for the right candidate,
> "organize" the right event, "mobilize" the right
> people, think the right thoughts, say the right
> things, etc.
>
> This is at the roots of moral indignation at
> "treacherous" Democrats, venal power elites,
> inadequate public services, injustice of the criminal
> justice system, stupidity of the media, etc. Such
> indignation is a preamble to the call for action to
> restore Amerika to its "true" self and free it from
> the corruptiong inmfluences of power elites,
> governments, corporations, etc.
>
> However, if one drops the delusion that there is such
> as thing as public interest in Amerika, all that
> critique, moral indignation and activism becomes
> pointless. Just like it does not make sense to reform
> wolves or lions so they stop killing Bambis - it does
> not make sense trying to reform Amerikan institutions
> to act in public interest. In both cases, this would
> be against the nature of the beast.
>
> This realization has a kathartic effect, at least on
> me. I stopped reacting emotionally to the constant
> barrage of bad news reporting thoughts and behavior of
> Bush, USG officials, corporate bosses, social
> problems, opinions of pundits etc. - and I started
> viewing it the way I view nature shows depicting
> things that normally would make me cringe, such as
> lions eating Bambis, seals devouring penguins, sharks
> attacking seals, or for that matter, my cats killing
> mice and birdies, etc. These creatures merely do what
> is in their nature, and ther is nothing I or anyone
> else can do short of exterminating all lions, seals,
> sharks and kitties - which would be even more
> horrific.
>
> This is an act of alienating onself - or detachment
> from the entrapments and delusions of life in Amerika.
> Amerika is what it has always been, a land of
> opportunity, getting rich quickly at public expense,
> and sanctimonious self-righteousness in the service of
> private profits. Nothing less, nothing more. One can
> either be a part of it, or stay out and view it as we
> view wild beasts devouring their prey - as alien
> observers watching it from a distance and abstaing
> from any intervention into this process on the pain of
> utmost futility and frustration of such intervention,
> if not becoming the prey (or predator).
>
> Wojtek
>
>



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