[lbo-talk] Tariq Ramadan and Islamic Socialism

Yoshie Furuhashi critical.montages at gmail.com
Mon Feb 19 13:43:43 PST 2007


On 2/18/07, Brian Charles Dauth <magcomm at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > If every leftist felt that way, there would be no problem, but that's
> hardly the case.
>
> True, but all leftists being there doesn't let Ramadan off the hook
> on queer issues. Does not all Muslims being pro-queer let me off
> the hook?

Obviously, I'm not talking about quid pro quo between you and Ramadan.

The questions I have in mind, for instance, include whether the Left in Europe, in which GLBT people are now more or less solidly integrated, can also win over Muslims and change the public opinion about them. An ability to do so can come in handy, especially in countries like France at an election time!


> > Well, how many people can I or you line up if I am or you are to work
> with only people who are already on the same page as I am on every
> issue?
>
> Not every issue, but the issue of control of one's body and freedom from
> oppression is a major issue where there should be agreement if there is
> to be collaboration don't you think?

If one is building a political party in a place where proportional representation exists, yes, to be already more or less on the same page on both issues affecting GLBTs and Muslims would be possible and desirable (at least imho). But that is not always the case, for instance, in cases like the European Social Forum, where networking, discussion, etc. are the main points, or elections where the winner takes all. -- Yoshie <http://montages.blogspot.com/> <http://mrzine.org> <http://monthlyreview.org/>



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