>Chuck was arguing that to engage in serious political dissent at the
>collective level runs the
>risk of temporary incarceration.
I agree with that. But I also agree with what Liza said (below) that Chuck was responding to. And if Chuck does believe we live in a police state, I'd be interested to know if planning for the possibility of longer, maybe much longer, than temporary incarceration is included as preparation for "fucking things up."
>Obviously, it's annoying when protesters over-
>dramatize their victimization by police, deliberately provoke cops,
>or claim that we live in a "police state." (We don't.) But the city
>handled this situation disgracefully, and should be held accountable.