[lbo-talk] Class, Kink, Sex

Bill Bartlett billbartlett at aapt.net.au
Tue Jan 9 19:07:56 PST 2007


At 5:21 PM -0500 9/1/07, BklynMagus wrote:


>WS:
>> If the only thing that separates an oppressive relationship form
>>non-oppressive one is the so-called consent of the subjugated part
>>- this is a really flimsy defense indeed.
>
>How is consent flimsy? I usually add the modifier "informed" before
>consent, but consent is powerful in my experience.

Bullshit. People consent to many things they'd prefer not to consent to.


> > So, it might help if you explained in detail how BDSM is actually
>only superficially similar to or actually not at all like domestic
>violence against women.
>
>CONSENT (sorry for the caps. I realize that if a person is blind to
>an answer in lower case, capitalization is no solution, but the
>truth is what it is).

Consent does not exclude the possibility of exploitation.


>As far as I know, there is no evidence that celebrating flogging
>enhances either a person's sense of male privilege or the likelihood
>of their commiting an act of rape or domestic violence. A person
>who rapes or abuses another person is mentally ill.

And a person who gets a thrill out of humiliating or inflicting pain on others, is not? I find that a bit difficult to accept at face value.

Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas



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