[lbo-talk] Obama 'was educated in madrassa'

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 20 13:09:32 PST 2007


So absolutism works so well? Don't vote, vote for the Socialist Party or Nader. Let McCain win. That worked so well too. We are faced with ugly and unappy choices. I have been on both sides of this -- yours for 15 years. I don't know the right answer. Are you sure you do?

--- amadeus amadeus <amadeus482000 at yahoo.com> wrote:


> yeah, let's stick with pragmatism.... it worked so
> well in the last two elections...
>
> andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
> wrote: I am aware of Obama's limitations. But it
> already says
> something that the conservative press feels it has
> to
> race bait him as an Ayrab terrorist rather than as a
> black man. He's also not quite as centrist as you
> are
> making out -- he's not a Clinton (Bill or Hilary),
> he
> record in Illinois is pretty good; he's now running
> on
> having opposed the war; it's true his style is
> highly
> conciliatory and he opposes conflict and will not
> fight hard for things we want and need. But does
> have
> a gift for winning over conservatives without
> pandering to them, basically by making it seem as
> (and
> maybe it is true) that he really listens. And the
> candidates who support the positions we like --
> Edwards to some degree, Kuchinich -- poll in the
> single digits and have no choice. So insofar as one
> is
> going to play presidential game at all, at the
> present
> it's Obama or Hilary, and he's way better and has a
> far better chance. She's way too polarizing. Usual
> caveats about spineless and untrustworthy Democrats.
>
>
> --- Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Michael Pollak wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Doug Henwood wrote:
> > >
> > >> His name - Barack Hussein Obama - will do the
> > rest of the work. Is
> > >> there any way a dark-skinned man with a name
> like
> > that could ever
> > >> get elected?
> > >
> > > But conversely, for that very reason, if he
> could,
> > wouldn't it mean
> > > something?
> >
> > Yeah, it'd mean the American people could swallow
> > post-political
> > centrism in an all-new wrapper.
> >
> > Doug
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