Joanna
Doug Henwood wrote:
>On Jul 3, 2007, at 12:28 PM, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
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>>What's your alternative? Which of:
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>>competitive elections
>>universal suffrage
>>extensive civil and political liberties
>>democratic decisionmaking (as opposed to imposition of
>>someone's idea of the good life will-we-nil-we)
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>You keep listing these as attributes of liberalism, but 19th century
>liberals weren't terribly interested in lots of them; they were all
>for economic liberalism, but opposed to it in the political sphere,
>because the masses might vote to expropriate the expropriators. There
>was a bourgeois movement in the 1870s, for example, to limit the
>franchise in New York to property owners, with The Nation's E.L.
>Godkin as one of its leaders. Radicals gave this content to what
>you're calling liberalism - why cede these virtues to the followers
>of Herbert Spencer?
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>Doug
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