Wouldnt everyone have to be required to put in a certain number of hours of grub work?
BobW
--- Miles Jackson <cqmv at pdx.edu> wrote:
> Tayssir John Gabbour wrote:
> > On 7/12/07, Bill Bartlett
> <billbartlett at aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not reassured. The link between what you
> consume and how many
> >> hours of approved work you do is still
> essentially a wages system.
> >>
> >
> > If you let me nitpick, it's not just hours --
> intensity too. If you've
> > ever just wanted to sprint through your work, or
> had a
> > dangerous/exhausting job, clearly time can be a
> terrible measure of
> > effort and sacrifice. People often approach the
> same job with
> > different intensity.
> >
> > Anyway, if you happen to have an alternative in
> mind, how would you
> > prefer remuneration to work? If it's clearly more
> fair, just and
> > equitable, I'd like to hear it.
> >
> Try this: the bean-counting notion of equity implied
> in Parecon is just
> a manifestation of the accounting practices that
> must exist in a
> capitalist society. There is nothing that compels
> us to define "equity"
> in terms of some individual level hours/intensity
> matrix; that's just
> the kind of thinking we're used to in a capitalist
> society with wage
> labor. I think it would be more useful to recognize
> and celebrate the
> fact that for one person to do any kind of useful
> work it requires (a) a
> lot of hard work from people in the past who created
> prerequisite
> technologies, skills, and knowledge, and (b) the
> coordination of people
> right now to make some particular work useful (e.g.,
> what good would a
> network admin be without others working on computer
> hardware and
> apps?). --I'll go so far as to say that it is a
> pernicious capitalist
> fantasy to argue that anyone does any work "on their
> own". (Work is a
> social relation, not an individual attribute!) And
> thus: any accounting
> of the amount of discrete work done by one person is
> a silly exercise,
> unless you're a capitalist trying to exploit
> workers.
>
> Miles
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