[lbo-talk] Nietzsche Selection

B. docile_body at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 11 19:37:49 PDT 2007


andie nachgeborenen wrote:

"Whoever here wrote that you can't trust that N wrote 'what he really meant' is quite right, since N signals this all over the place and even says it many times."

Andie/jks & others,

I guess I've changed my opinion on this -- but only because I don't know German. I can't read the original Nietzsche (or Marx) in the language they wrote so I'm at the mercy of translators, and I've come across controversy in how words like "Ubermensch" (Overman, or Superman?) and "Macht" vs. "Reich" have been translated, as well as the various puns, double entendres, cultural references, etc., that native German readers would get that are hard if not impossible to translate meaningfully over into English. And Nietzsche employed puns, turns of phrases, etc., a lot to embellish his writing, from what I understand. A lot of that gets lost or is different depending on what translation you read. There is also the belief that Leo Strauss had that Nietzsche had an exoteric as well as an esoteric side; getting that into English would be quite difficult, I'd think.

As to the stuff about Nietzsche being a Nazi precursor or Kauffman being anti-communist, I dunno who was going on about that. I posted quite a bit of stuff that deflates the Nietzsche-as-proto-Nazi myth that unfortunately some folks still cling to, or basically agree with, such as the World Socialist Website, who also manage to tar even Foucault in their multi-part demolition of Nietzsche. Nietzsche absolutely hated German nationalism and despised anti-Semites, as passages I've quoted showed.

-B.



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