[lbo-talk] Internet scams

Matt lbo4 at beyondzero.net
Fri Mar 2 15:12:47 PST 2007


On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:56:25PM -0600, John Thornton wrote:


> >Grossly overcharged and possibly receive fake drugs. Most of these
> >sites issue you a "prescription" by having you fill out a form that is
> >"reviewed by a doctor" [instantly, apparently].


> Most drugs sold via the internet, even controlled substances like
> Oxycotin, deliver the actual drugs being advertised.

Yeah, that's why I wrote "possibly". But there are some fake distributors out there, I've been involved in tracking one of them down via their Internet connection. If your anecdotes suggest it is just 1%, I wouldn't argue against that, but consider it in the context of online drug merchants who are also spammers.


> The term grossly overcharged is inaccurate as well.
> Have you seen the list price on Imitrex? While my co-pay is only $25
> with a legitimate script if I had no insurance and was buying it myself
> outright it would be less expensive to trash my legitimate script and
> buy from an online source. My local pharmacies charge much more than
> online retailers. Ask your pharmacies their retail price on Viagra. I
> guarantee you can get a better price online. Same for Imitrex, Tramadol,
> and many other drugs.

OK, well we have a different expectation of what drugs ought to cost. Agree though, the non-insured price in a pharmacy is even more grossly overcharged.

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> Since you write "instantly apparently" you don't seem to have much
> firsthand knowledge of how internet drug sales actually work. Have you
> personally investigated internet drug sales or are you repeating what
> others have told you?

Thanks for asking. Yes I do have first hand knowledge, but only about pain killers, benzodiezapines, and muscle relaxers.

The "instantly, apprently" was to imply that given how quickly I can be approved to purchase, say, vicodin and xanax, it seems a script is parsing the form I filled out versus actually being reviewed by a physician.

However to Wojtek's query, marketing via spam is a *STRONG* indication of their likeness to scams. My answer is in the context of what I inferred he was referring to: the spam in his inbox.

Spammers are social parasites.

Matt

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