[lbo-talk] barbaric

[Carrol Cox]

I wouldn't disagree (see the parenthesis in the quote from me below),
though you've certainly worked it out in more detail than would ever
have occurred to me. But, of course, were it not for the relentless
market discipline workers could (as the cliche Miles cites suggests)
simply walk out from under that direct discipline (as a serf, slave, or
apprentice could not). That is sufficient to undergird capitalist
ideology of individual freedom.

Carrol

andie nachgeborenen wrote:
> 
> Actually I think of Marx's deepest points is that
> capitalism can't eliminate what you call direct
> discipline, what I call in some old papers I once
> wrote domination (at the point of production) as
> opposed to coercion (exercised by the market). (Will
> provide these on request to any interested persons.)


> --- Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


> > Capitalism in
> > principle (not in
> > practice) eliminates direct coercion.


> --- Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: