[lbo-talk] Islam and Muslims (was Doug and Islam)

jrdavis from_alamut at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 15 11:15:05 PDT 2007


Left out of most discussions about Islam and its varieties are the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims or Ismailis for short. They are the direct descendants of the Assassins of Alamut who made political assassination a state art. Today they are a peaceful, modern, prosperous and extremely liberal shia sect whose members live throught the South Asian dispora. History books often call the sevener shia (as opposed to 12er shia the party in power in Iran) but actually are more 49er shia (their current leader, Imam Aga Khan IV, is their 49th Imam since Ali).

jim

"B." <docile_body at yahoo.com> wrote:

Yoshie wrote:

"Beyond that, I think leftists should try to find out more about Islam in all its varieties, Muslims of all kinds, predominantly Muslim nations (with a wide variety of customs, class structures, economic situations, balances of political forces, intellectual trends, etc.) and see if they can't find things they like about them."

It'd be nice if everyone did that, not just leftists. On the one hand they might find Islam as a written, revealed religion -- that is, the Qur'an and Hadiths -- are extremely similar to Christianity and Judaism. An Abrahamic faith with a lot of the same stories and just as many prescriptions for behavior that are either very bizarre or don't make sense for our times, and some good stuff that you can cherry pick out of the whole and focus laserlike on, ignoring the rest.

No one religion has a monopoly on spawning odious groups of violent & coercive people. Christianity has succeeded in that department. It doesn't make sense to focus on one Abrahmic faith, Islam, while ignoring the other two Abrahamic faiths.

On the other hand, the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" strategy is a little too disingenuous and Machiavellian for my tastes. I don't feel the need to ally with some large power unit simply because it 8s a power unit or represents some viable counter-power to something I'm opposed. There are several in the world to choose from: Chave-ian Latin American socialism is one. Iran, or more specifically what's being referred to as "leftist Islam" (maybe wishfully in a lot of cases) is another. I'm not sure I want to throw my lot in with either counter-power. There are principles I think are worth are worth supporting, but allying with something because it's simply powerful seems pretty warped.

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