[lbo-talk] Islam and Muslims (was Doug and Islam)

Carl Remick carlremick at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 16 08:54:26 PDT 2007



>From: "Yoshie Furuhashi" <critical.montages at gmail.com>
>
>On 3/16/07, Carl Remick <carlremick at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ... I think these prayers for peace are a lot more supernatural than
> > secular-leftists' anti-war signs. The prayers, after all, are directed
>to
> > God; the signs are directed to people. Achieving peace in the Middle
>East
> > will require human action, not divine intervention.
>
>Both are human actions, directed to the other Americans, the media,
>and other human individuals and institutions. The difference is that
>secular leftists, lacking institutions and resources, have fewer human
>services to offer to the oppressed than religious leftists. Both, at
>current sizes, don't stand a prayer's chance of success, however, for
>anti-war purposes, as the Senate votes show.

Keep praying then. I just ran across this inspirational quote from Hermann Goering:

"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goering>

Carl

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