[lbo-talk] Sipping Wine (was Zizek: "Where to look for revolutionary potential?" )

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 19 13:31:12 PDT 2007


Well, Dostoevsky was also a reactionary, although his main counterrevolutionary novel, Demons/the Possessed, is actually hilariously funny and dead-on about the left. And Gogol was brilliant about the the government and people's cravenness towards it as well -- as in The Nose or The Inspector General.

--- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> --- andie nachgeborenen
> <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah, I know the basis of Taras Bulba. And
> > Khmelniki,
> > whosoever liberation of whoever he may or may not
> > have
> > promoted, it was so far from including the Jews
> that
> > his ghost haunted by grandmother's memory. His
> > pogroms
> > were awesomely awful even by the standards of the
> > times, really worthy of the Einsatzgruppen, though
> > without the technological efficiency. The
> Ukrainians
> > can have him as a national hero. It helps explain
> > why
> > my Jewish friends fled Kiev and Odessa even to the
> > present day.
> >
>
> I know. The event is sometimes refered to as the
> First
> Holocaust (the United States has a roughly
> comparable
> figure on its currency:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US20-front.jpg ).
> But my point was only that he was a revolutionary
> (rather, as Woj correctly pointed out, insurgency)
> leader who was not an intellectual. IIRC he was a
> border guard.
>
> A film adaptation of Taras Bulba is currently being
> done. I wonder how they will pull that off. The book
> is an open glorification of religious and ethnic
> hatred. If you took out the murder and hatred of
> Jews
> and Catholics, there would be like 10% of the book
> left. Hard to imagine that the same guy who wrote
> Taras Bulba also wrote The Nose.
>
>
>
>
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