[lbo-talk] who likes Hillary

[ravi]

On 5 Oct, 2007, at 15:05 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote:
> Doug Henwood wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote:
>>
>>> This is madness. 80% of the white working class supports HRC or
>>> politicians to her right. Do they know something we don't know?  
>>> 90% of
>>> Americans, black and white, believe in angels. Maybe they're on to
>>> something! Have you ever considered that people might be gullible or
>>> poorly informed?
>>
>> I can see the basis of a winning campaign already: hey, let me save
>> you, you gullible ignoramuses!
>
> I could apply the same the response you always give when you're  
> accused
> of alienating the pious masses with your atheism.
>

No you can't, coz I already did ;-).

Seriously: I am not convinced by the [black people are as] gullible,  
etc argument. The analogy to white working class doesn't seem right  
to me because: the white working class goes [exactly] against their  
own interest (materially defined), even when options closer to these  
interests are available. Black people however choose one among two  
options, the one which is arguably the lesser evil. Also, what is it,  
90% of black people vote for the Democrats, so it does not seem to  
make sense to me that we can argue that any group will have its  
gullible percentage. If 90% of fundies vote GOP its not because they  
are [simply] gullible but because they do [correctly] perceive that  
party as a better option.

Miles asked about what the difference between the parties may be from  
an AA perspective and Andie gave some examples. There are others,  
such as the Bush administration's involvement of the government in an  
active role *against* affirmative action.

	--ravi