[lbo-talk] who likes Hillary

[ravi]

On 6 Oct, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Marvin Gandall wrote:
> Ravi wrote:
>
>> ...the white working class goes [exactly] against their
>> own interest (materially defined), even when options closer to these
>> interests are available. Black people however choose one among two
>> options, the one which is arguably the lesser evil.
> =================================
> White males who have historically had privileged access to the  
> labour market
> have resisted affirmative action for women and minorities, and  
> workers in
> small towns and rural states may be disproportionately  
> conservative, but the
> great majority of workers - black and white, men and women - share  
> common
> attitudes on the material issues which affect them directly. I  
> commented
> recently on another list:
>
> "Working people (of all colours) are primarily dependent for their  
> survival
> on their jobs and wages, on easy access to credit, and on healthcare,
> pensions and other social benefits gained from generations of  
> struggle.
> ... So
> it is not by chance that the working class has tended to favour
> left-of-centre political parties which have reflected its traditional
> demands in their programs and, in periods of crisis, have been the  
> main
> social base for movements farther to the left."

Which is even better (for I was only responding to the point raised  
that black people are gullible etc the same way as white working  
class people are)! So many in the working class do favour left-of- 
centre parties for logical reasons. Why assume (not you in  
particular) any different for black people? That they are gullible  
etc., when (as per my earlier reasoning) there are reasons to explain  
their choice.

	--ravi