[lbo-talk] Can Politics Be Liberated from the von Neumann

[Jim Straub]

Well... we did influence the general public in the anti-war movement before
the start of the war.  The anti- movement then was big, it was growing, but
it was not enough.

Since then, tho, I think the left has been completely divorced from the
general public's turn against the war.  I think the evening news and Bush's
bumbling incompetence and the cost of it in terms of US lives and money have
influenced people to turn against the war, not at all the actions or
analysis of the left.  As a result, if you dig into the reasons most people
have turned against the war, there's usually some messed up stuff in there.
None of the national soul-searching of a vietnam.  "Let em eat sand", that's
what I hear most often from returning soldiers.


> CB: I'm not so sure that U.S. leftists didn't affect Americans'
> reaction to the U.S. policy on Iraq, so we might impact Americans'
> thinking on U.S. policy on Iran.
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