[lbo-talk] Islam and socialism

[Jeffrey Fisher]

On 10/25/07, Yoshie Furuhashi <critical.montages at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/25/07, Jeffrey Fisher <jeff.jfisher at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/24/07, berber carpet bomb <berber.carpet.bomb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 10/24/07, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey, Yoshie, do you ever join any Muslim forums and try to recruit
> > > > the members to socialism? I'd be curious what reaction you've gotten
> > > > if you have.
> > >
> > > Dude. You never, ever actively recruit. You set a stellar example of being
> > > an admirable intellect, etc. Or, you work in a small team, demonstrating
> > > comradeship among the grouplet. People observe and want some o' that, then
> > > they become socialists.
> > >
> > > bl, berber carpet bomb
> >
> > However I might agree (blah blah Rorty blah blah pragmatism blah
> > blah), I still wonder what the answer is. If Yoshie has undertaken
> > anything like that, it would be very interesting to hear about.
>
> What is on the political agenda in many nations (from Latin America to
> the Middle East), and what should get on the political agenda in many
> others, today is not socialism but democracy and republicanism.  If
> socialism grows anywhere, perhaps in Venezuela, it will do so
> organically out of people's practice of democracy and republicanism,
> which will differ from one country to another.  There is no other way.

there you have it.

i'm not even starting on the religion question(s).

j